HomeMy WebLinkAbout03/13/2000 City Council MINUTES OF THE JOINT SESSION OF CITY COUNCIL
AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
HELD ON
MARCH 13, 2000
The JOINT WORK SESSION of the CITY COUNCIL and THE PLANNING AND ZONING
COMMISSION of the City of The Colony, Texas was called to order at 7:15 p.m. on the 13th day
of March 2000, at CITY HALL, 6800 Main Street, The Colony, Texas with the following roll call:
Bill Manning, Mayor Present
John Gordon, Councilmember Present
Lewis Jue, Councilmember Present
David Stanwick, Councilmember Absent (personal)
A1 Garcia, Councilmember Present
John Dillard, Councilmember Present
Jeff Meyers, Councilmember Present
Joe Agnew, P&Z Chairman Present
DeVille Hubbard, P&Z member Absent
Bill Jamme, P&Z member Absent
Cathy Wood, P&Z member Present
Kirk Mikulec, P&Z member Present
DeWayne Snider, P&Z member Present
The following persons were introduced:
Myron Dornic, attorney with Jenkins & Gilchrist representing Shula Netzer
Paul Hagler, P.E., project manager with Billingsley Co.
Mike Cummings, P.E. - C&P Engineering, Ltd. representing Billingsley Co.
Suzanne Sheaffer, P.E. with SMS Consulting, Inc. working with Kimley-Horn & Assoc.
Dan Grant, E.I. with Kimley-Horn & Associates
Mike Boyd, P.E. with Nathan D. Maier Consulting Engineers
Roy Wilshire, P.E. with Kimley-Horn & Associates
A quorum was established for both bodies and the following items were discussed:
1.1 DISCUSSION OF OFFICE CREEK DRAINAGE ISSUES
Mr. Lambert opened the discussion advising there had been 7 alternatives presented to
council. Some called for retention/detention and some did not. Mr. Lambert further stated the
council had asked the city staff and engineers to bring back a recommendation and that those
recommendations are ready tonight for discussion.
Mr. Lambert said the council will be addressing the impact fee ordinance on March 20, 2000
and four issues need to be settled before that time. Those issues are: 1. Which plan to adopt
2. What components should be included in the plan
3. How to assess developed land, or should we assess developed land
4. Percentages to charge for impact fees
1. Mike Boyd with Nathan Maier Engineers presented two alternatives:
Alternative I - Calls for no detention, but for a full release of 100-year run-off. The estimated cost
of $4.8 million includes drainage but not road construction costs.
Alternative II - Calls for retention/detention in four areas. The estimated cost of $4.4 million
includes the cost of culverts under Hwy 121. Mr. Boyd noted that TxDOT might build the
improvements on 121 and 423, which would reduce the cost to $3.7 million. This does include open
channels. Mr. Boyd stated the cost to add box channels would be approximately $800,000. He said
the difference in what TxDOT would build and what we need is approximately $600,000.
The council and the commission discussed at length the retention/detention ponds, their
location and impact on the property around them, i.e. park land and multi-family development. City
staff, Mike Boyd and Roy Wilshire (representing JNC) recommended Alternative 2. Mr. Saldafia,
city engineer, said this alternative optimizes the drainage system.
Bill Sheveland with JNC said he had always assumed the drainage at Paige to Hwy 121
would be boxed, not open. He said it would be fair and equitable to include the cost for boxing the
channel. Mayor Manning said he did not believe other property owners not affected by this issue
would want to share those costs.
Mr. Sheveland further noted that retention/detention is normal in most cities and is easily
assimilated. If it is done right it will enhance the property.
2. Components
Councilmember Gordon asked if the city manager had contacted TxDOT regarding sharing
in the costs of these improvements. He said he thinks they should share in the cost, noting that we
will be putting in more than what they require. Mr. Wilshire suggested asking TxDOT to lower the
culverts and expand them and showed a rough drawing of how that would be accomplished.
Mr. Saldafia said he had spoken with David Hensley with TxDOT who advised that some
funding (from the city) would help them (TxDOT) in deciding to agree to design these areas as we
request. Councilmember Gordon said if TxDOT would reimburse us later we could do this now
without their help.
It was agreed the components could be decided at a later date.
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3. Assessment of developed property
Mayor Manning said this will have to be voted on separately, since his office is located in
one of the affected areas and he will have to abstain on the vote on this particular issue.
Discussion followed regarding assessing a percentage to each property owner and to exclude
residential properties. Councilmember Gordon said he is not sure we should charge people that have
already developed or are already living in the area.
4. Percentage to charge for impact fees
Mayor Manning suggested 50%. Councilmember Gordon cautioned against raising a red flag
to developers by setting the fee too high. It was suggested the fee be collected at final plat.
Mr. Dornic asked if the public hearing set for March 20 could be held open so his client
would have time to review this issue before adoption of the ordinance. Mayor Manning said that
might be possible.
Chairman Agnew said the P&Z Commission would be reviewing this issue at their meeting
on March 14 and would be bringing a recommendation on which plan to use and the total numbers
involved.
The engineers representing the Billingsley Co. also asked for more time to review the issue.
With no further comments, Mayor Manning and Chairman Agnew adjourned the joint
meeting at 9:05 p.m.
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