HomeMy WebLinkAbout02/11/1992 City Council MINUTES OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
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FEBRUARY 11, 1992
The Work Session of the City Council and the Planning and Zoning Commission of the City
of The Colony, Texas was called to order at 7:10 p.m. on the llth day of February, 1992 at
City Hall with the following Council roll call:
Bill Manning, Mayor Present
Mike Lynch, Councilman Present
Billy Sharp, Councilman Present
Dale Therio, Councilman Absent
Rob Burchard, Councilman Present
Joel Marks, Mayor Pro-tem Present
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEMBERS
Carol Chabinak-Ball, Chairman Present
Julie Bottke, Member Present
Tom Bogan, Member Present
Robert Woodard, Member Present
Bob Salerno, Member Arrived 7:30 p.m.
David Salmon, Member Present
Cathy Bock-Wood, Member Present
and with five Council members and six members of Planning and Zoning present, a quorum
was established for both bodies and the following items were addressed:
1. REVIEW AND DISCUSSION OF A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR 154.306
ACRES IN THE SOUTH PLANNING UNIT IN THE COLONY AS PRESENTED
BY CENTEX REAL ESTATE CORPORATION
Mayor Manning stated that this is to answer questions of both P & Z and Council.
At this time (7:15 p.m.) Planning and Zoning Member, Cathy Bock-Wood removed herself
from the discussion due to a conflict of interest. Councilman Burchard asked if the law
requires Ms. Wood to leave the room, and Mayor said the law requires her to refrain from
discussion or action, but the decision to leave the room is left up to the member.
Councilman Sharp asked if approved how soon this development would be built.
Derek Earle, Fox and Jacobs/Centex (F&J) representative said there is no set schedule but
referring to previous developments in the City, stated that F&J has developed everything
that has been zoned. Mr. Earle went on to say that he and Dennis Jerke with Carter and
Burgess will answer any questions. Mr. Earle said his company has looked at re-zoning this
property for over a year, noting that in the mid eighties F&J requested the property be
zoned Business Park, thinking it would be marketable as such. Going on, Mr. Earle said
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the property has not been marketable as B.P. and since Lakeridge is the last bit of single
family zoning in The Colony, his company desires to change zoning on these tracts to single
family.
Mr. Jerke said the property is approximately 152.69 acres bounded by FM 423 to the
east, a large commercial tract to the south, Corps of Engineer property to the west, noting
there is access to the development from 423 and potential access to the north. Mr. Jerke
said 18% of the property will be dedicated to parks and open spaces, noting this is a good
location with natural buffers, stating the zoning request is 4 units to an acre with
transferability requested.
Councilman Sharp asked if the 18% is in the flood plain, and Mr. Jerke said it is in
the Corps flowage easement, but there will be roads and parks, with no houses. Mr. Earle
noted that just to the west of the area is a tract of land which is in the City of Lewisville,
zoned Light Industrial, which F&J would like to have annexed imo The Colony.
There followed a lengthy discussion regarding density transferability. Councilman
Sharp asked if they would come in with all tracts SF 4 and Mr. Earle said it would be
considered, but that he feels that is not the best use for the area. Going on Mr. Earle said
if they go with straight zoning, the city has no control, bm Planned Developmem (PD)
allows flexibility for the city and the developer. Mr. Earle noted there is no zoning
classification in the city for 50 foot lots therefore the PD is necessary to build those homes.
Chairman Ball asked if a market study had been done regarding 50 foot lots, to determine
if there are people out there interested in them. Mr. Earle said no study had been done,
but he feels these houses will sell.
Member Bogan said there are enough starter homes, asking for 1700 square foot
minimum. There followed a discussion regarding the density in Northpointe, with notes that
there are 425 homes built out in 4 years, with the average size being 2600-2800 square feet.
Mayor Manning asked if, based on the experience with Northpointe the developer
felt 5000 square foot lots will build out. Mr. Earle said the two cannot be compared, noting
the price of the homes has increased $20,000, going on to say he estimates the average size
of the home which would be built on the proposed 5000 square foot lots to be 2000-2200
(in today's market). There followed a lengthy discussion regarding the minimum size homes
to be allowed, after most of the members agreed with a minimum of 1500 square feet.
There was also a brief discussion regarding the proposed from emry garages. Mr.
Earle said these homes can be built attractively and to change them to rear entry would
require retaining walls at a large expense, going on to say there would probably only be 50-
60 homes with front entry garages and only in the green belt area.
In regard to traffic in the area, Mr. Earle said the Master Thoroughfare Plan of the
city calls for a north south roadway from Lakeridge south to Hwy 121. Mr. Earle said he
has no objection to building the roadway through the south planning unit, but he does object
to building the roadway to the north and to Hwy 121, noting the cost estimates are from
$300,000 to $800,000. Mr. Earle said to put the road through the business property to the
south will sub divide the tract and lessen its marketability. Mayor Manning said the road
would not be needed until the development is built out, which is 6 - 7 years, and asked if
Cemex would build the road at that time. Mr. Earle said he would check with Mr.
Bilheimer, but he would rather tie the road construction to the development of the large
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piece of business property to the south, not this residential development. Going on, Mr.
Earle said there are two entries into the development planning from 423. Mr. Earle went
on to say the buyer of the property to the south should determine where the road to 121
should be built.
Mayor Manning said if Mr. Bilheimer (Centex) will not commit to build the roadway
at some point, then he (Manning) will vote against this project.
Councilman Lynch said a signal light at 423 and Cougar Alley needs to be included
in this agreement, using the effect Northpointe traffic has had on the need for signalization
at Paige and North and South Colony Blvds. Mr. Earle noted that F&J has put in all streets
in this city and that he is against F&J paying for the entire cost of this signal light, noting
he is willing to pay a percentage of the light, going on to say the city needs to take
responsibility for its own infrastructure. Councilman Sharp noted it is this development that
is creating the need for the signal light. Bill Hall stated that the developer of Wynnewood
has committed to a left turn lane and signal light when that property develops, and noted
the city must look at these issues.
8:50 Recess
9:05 Reconvene - P & Z Member Salerno left the meeting at this time.
Mr. Earle said he does believe Centex will pay a percentage of the signal light, but
he thinks the city should participate as well. Mayor Manning asked if the State would help
fund the light and Mr. Hall said only if the warrant shows the need, reminding everyone that
the light at Paige and N. Colony was a condition of the Northpointe development. Mr.
Earle said F&J had contacted the State who had indicated they would install the light if they
found it necessary.
Summarizing the issues, there needs to be a commitment to build the road to the
south, and Mr. Earle desires to tie the construction of that road to the development of the
business property not this residential development. Councilman Sharp suggested a bond
attached to the zoning such as that attached to the Business Park Zoning in Ordinance No.
357 passed in 1985. Chairman Ball noted there needs to be two entrances and exits to and
from 423, but she agrees the business property to the south should not be divided by the
roadway. Mr. Earle asked if this zoning request was for a commercial facility which would
create much more traffic impact, would the city be asking the developer to cut the density
10%. Mayor Manning said probably not, but Mr. van Til said the same is asked of every
developer. Mayor Manning asked for a consensus on the north/south roadway. Should it
be required at the time this property develops or should it be required when the business
property develops.
Councilman Lynch noted that 121 expansion will probably be done before this
development is complete, and then the land on 121 will probably develop and the roadway
will be built anyway. Bill Hall stated that 121 will probably be done before the house is
even built, due to the lengthy installation of sanitary sewer into the area.
All agreed the construction of the road could be postponed. There was discussion
as to when, and Councilman Burchard suggested between the time 121 is complete and this
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residential development is complete, stating then we will know the real impact, the market
value of property along 121, etc.
Mr. Earle stated that if the roadway is tied to the development of this residential
property then this development will not work, however, if the roadway is tied to the
development of the commercial property, then it might work.
Member Bogan said there needs to be traffic study so we will know if the north south
roadway is needed now or later.
Mr. Jerke said the issue is timing; there is a combination of things that will happen -
the signal on 423, the expansion of 121 and the road to the south. Mr. Jerke said phasing
is necessary in a logical sequence, going on to say the traffic problems will be solved in time,
but it can't be solved now by one developer.
Chairman Ball said she believes we (city) have been asking F&J for something no
other developer would do and that we are being extremely restrictive. Councilman Marks
said the bottom line is, do we want homes in this area or not, going on to say he does not
see the need to require the road for this development, but he agrees there are two exits
onto 423 needed, and we need an answer to whether the road will be built through the
business park property later.
Councilman Burchard said we should require 1) two exit/entrances onto 423, 2) a
commitment to build the north/south road to Hwy 121 when the business property develops.
Mayor Manning, Chairman Ball, Councilman Marks and Members Bottke and Woodard
agreed.
Bob van Til said the questions concerning the need of the road would be answered
by a traffic study and it would then become a valuable tool to the council and P & Z.
Mayor Manning asked what it would tell us that will help with this decision. Mr. van Til
said it would tell traffic assignments, real time counts, etc. There followed a lengthy
discussion regarding traffic studies in general and what information they provide. Chairman
Ball said the heavy impact of traffic will not be until the end of the development which will
be 1997 at the earliest. Mr. van Til said without a traffic study, then we will fall back on
the thoroughfare plan. Mayor Manning and Councilman Marks both agreed the study may
not be needed. Councilman Burchard suggested the study might be the answer. Mr. Earle
said the company will not do a traffic study, because they have already provided the city
with all the information that a traffic study would provide, and it should be enough to make
a decision.
Mayor Manning said he feels the discussion should end at this time and directed the
City Secretary to schedule another joint work session in the near future.
APPROVED:
William W. Manning~
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ATI'EST:
Patti A. Hicks, City Secretary
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