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MARCH 14, 1988
The Special Session of the City Council of the City of The
Colony, Texas was called to order at 7:30 p.m. on the 14th day of
March 1988 at City Hall with following Council roll call:
Don Amick, Mayor Present
Rick Harris,Mayor Pro-tem Present
Johnny Spears,Councilman Absent
Michael Robinson,Councilman Present
Steve Glazener,Councilman Present
Harvey Bradley,Councilman Present
Marlene Poole,Councilman Present
and with six members present a quorum was established and the
following items were addressed:
1. RECONSIDERATION OF THE MOTION TO NAME STREETS WITHIN THE
NORTHPOINTE ADDITION
Mayor Amick stated that this item had been brought back at
the written request of a majority of the Council.
Councilman Harris stated that he had served on the committee
to pick street names and that the first criteria had been
persons who had served a full term as Mayor and/or
Councilmembers, M.U.D. Board Members and other key citizens
in the City. Councilman Harris said that Mayor Sample's
name was brought up and that he (Harris) had worked with
Mayor Sample and respected him. Councilman Harris said he
realizes some don't like the way Mayor Sample left the City
and stated he did not like it either, but that he had asked
for this item to be brought back so that if the Council
wanted to reconsider their decision, they could do so and so
that citizens could voice their opinion on the subject,
going on to say that he felt it had been a good decision.
At this time, Mayor Amick opened the floor to comments from
the audience.
Kay Van Alstyne - 5128 Strickland, stated that she had
written a letter to the editor supporting the naming of
Sample Drive and naming some of Mayor Sample's
accomplishments during his tenure from 1981 to 1986.
Bruce Sopas - 5221 Worley, stated that he had served on P &
Z and had watched this city grow, and that it is sad that
some with deny having a street named for someone due to the
way that person left or for personal reasons, stating that
many positive things had happened in this city due to Mayor
Sample.
Charles Dodds - 5001 Roberts supported the committee's
actions to name streets for former councilmen and urged them
not reconsider their decision to name a street for Mayor
Sample.
Mayor Amick asked if anyone else wished to speak on this
subject. There were no other comments. Mayor Amick then
asked for a motion to rescind the names previously approved
for Northpointe Addition. There was no motion. Mayor Amick
stated that the previous action taken will stand.
2. WORK SESSION TO REVIEW THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE REQUESTED
BY REDWOOD DEVELOPMENT FOR WYNNEWOOD PENINSULA
Art Anderson, 6400 First Republic Bank Tower, Dallas,
representing Redwood Development gave a slide presentation
showing the following items:
1. First Nichols Home - Mr. Anderson said the Nichols want to
see a quality development on the property.
2. The lake house - Mr. Anderson said this property is
scheduled for later development of larger homes with lake view
lots.
3. Site Plan - Mr. Anderson referenced the P & Z tie vote,
stating that the developers had been disappointed and surprised
at that vote, citing the three reasons given for the negative
votes. (1) access to the road across the Strief property. Mr.
Strief did write a letter stating that he supports the change, -~
after having had his questions answered satisfactorily. (2) ~
house size, first Deed Restrictions called for a particular mix
after 40% and the developer had asked for 60%. (3) Boyd Rd.-
Member Brantley had express several concerns which the developer
worked on and they are addressed in the Deed Restrictions.
4. Aerial of the area - Mr. Anderson named the surrounding
property owners.
5. Intersection of FM 423 and Boyd Rd. - Left turn lane had
been requested and developer has agreed to build it, this slide
shows that there is sufficient right-of-way to do so.
6. Boyd Rd. - both traffic engineers say this road will handle
up to 1000 homes as it is but there is sufficient right-of-way to
expand when necessary.
7. The developer will dedicate a site for a future fire station
on the Peninsula.
8. View of FM 423 going north - Mr. Anderson said the property
will be difficult to market, due to the route people will have to
take to get there, stating that they will also have to pass by an
area that is not within any City and has no zoning restrictions
and does not have to adhere to City Codes. --~
Mr. Anderson then said the developers feel it is important to
have a small retail service area to serve the homes in that area
and that they propose a center type, not a pad site type
development, stating also that this help to keep some traffic off
FM 423.
9. Wynnewood Haven Estates - a nice subdivision with 75% of the
homes on the lake or with a lake view, but there are no traffic
control devices, there are overhead power lines, poor drainage,
no curb and gutter and no sidewalks.
Mr. Anderson said they have looked at several alternatives to
service the area with utilities, showing one plan for a sewer
line and one for a water line.
Mr. Anderson summarized by stating that are some problem, but
there is more potential than problems, going to say that the
developer has made a large commitment and feels this will be a
great place for people to live.
Mr. Anderson said that Boyd Road is a county road and that both
the engineers have said that build out of this area would not
overload the road but that the developer realize~ that they could
be assessed for improvements to their frontage and is willing to ~
escrow the money up front for their share of the improvements.
Mr. Anderson said that getting in and out of the area would be
difficult if the road was torn up for improvements, and that it
is difficult for a developer to tell a county what to do with
their road. Mr. Anderson said that the engineers suggested that
the escrow money of $150,000.00 be used as seed money so the City
of The Colony, Denton County and the City of Frisco, might come
together to get the road improved.
At this point, Mr. Anderson said that the developer .would like
and appreciate some direction from the Council regarding zoning
and any other issues.
Mayor Amick then asked Chief Van Morrison to address the Council.
Chief Morrison said that the average response time from Station 2
to this area is 8 1/2 minutes and that now the average time to
any point in the city is 4 minutes. Chief Morrison said the
State Insurance Board uses response time as one of the guidelines
when determining key rating for cities. Mayor Amick asked the
Chief if he knew what the response time was before the rate had
been reduced previously. Chief Morrison said he thought that was
in 1981 and the time had been 10 minutes, but then the City got a
paid staff and the rate went down.
Mayor Amick asked what the increase would mean to a home owner.
Chief Morrison said he thought maybe two cents on the hundred.
Mayor Amick asked the Chief to clarify that for the next Council
meeting and asked how we compare to neighboring cities. Chief
Morrison said Lewisville is $.17 and Carrol]ton is about equal to
us, going on to say that the amount industry in your city effects
the rate also.
Councilman Bradley explained how the key rate compares with the
insurance rate.
Councilman Harris said the with the potential growth north and
south of the city, it is something we will have to face sooner or
later and that he would not want to base this decision on the key
rate.
Councilman Poole stated that the fire department is servicing the~
Peninsula now under a County contract and the Chief concurred.
Councilman Bradley asked if the response time was for a fire
truck and the Chief said it was a fire truck and an ambulance
driving the speed limit and obeying all traffic control devices.
Councilman Bradley asked if this would increase the risk in
medical calls. Chief Morrison said it would greatly increase the
risk, particularly on a heart attack victim, stating that a
victim has 4 minutes from the time the heart stops to be saved.
There followed a brief discussion regarding the various ways of
measuring time in these instances.
mayor Amick stated he had received a letter from Becky Braun,
clarifying a statement he had made at the last meeting in which
he stated the adjacent property owners are not tax payers in The
Colony. Ms. Braun advised the Mayor that she and her sister do
pay taxes to The Colony. Mayor Amick stated that his reference
was to the Wynnewood Haven Estates residents.
Mayor Amick then asked Mr Anderson about the sewer line across
the lake. Mr. Anderson said that this is Corps of Engineer
property and that it is a water supply to several cities, who may
object to having a sewer line running through it. Mr. Anderson
said another option is a package plant on the Peninsula until
such time as they can hook onto The Colony's system.
Tommy Turner stated that there have already been some objections
from the City of Dallas and said that whatever route the Council
decides on there will be about a 18 - 24 month wait for approval.
Councilman Harris. asked if a plant is built won't it require
personnel. Mr. Turner said yes, a minimum number.There followed a
lengthy discussion regarding the methods available to service the
Peninsula with sewer and water. Councilman Harris said he
thought the developer was to pay for this line. Mr. Anderson
said it thought the City would be serving Eastvale and then
Redwood could tie on to that system, going on to say that it is
not economically feasible for them to pay for the entire cost
when there will be no pro-rata on the line. Councilman Harris
said he is not necessarily in favor of a package plant. Mr.
Rusty Nichols stated that this is a new idea to him, but that it
was suggested as an alternative.
There followed still more discussion regarding the alternatives,
a package plant and a sewer main under the lake, as well as
maintenance, personnel, costs, and long term solutions.
Mayor Amick directed Tommy Turner to determine if a permit from
the Corps of Engineer for a sewer line under the lake and a
permit from the Texas Water Commission for a package plant could
both be requested at the same time, so that if one said no we
would know right away if the other alternate was available.
Mr. Anderson reiterated that since this is only part of what will
be developed on the Peninsula, it would be unfair to ask :
Redwood to pay the entire costs. Councilman Harris agreed that
would be a lot, but stated that he had thought ali along that
they would be handling this and now they have changed their mind,
noting that if this was how things had occurred with the P & Z he
could see why there had been some confusion.
Mayor Amick asked if a package plant was approved, how would they
provide fresh water. Mr. Nichols stated they would probably dig
a well. Councilman Harris asked if the developer would dedicate
the land for a package plant and Mr. Nichols said they would have
to.
Councilman Harris then asked if the $150,000.00 was later
determined not to be enough to cover the developer's share of the
improvements to Boyd Road would they pay the difference. Mr.
Nichols said that he saw no problem with that, stating they had
just made an estimate and were trying to cover the costs up
front.
Councilman Harris asked if they would be paying for the
construction of the left turn lane from 423 onto Boyd Rd. and Mr.
Anderson said it would be built before the first certificate of
occupancy is issued.
There followed a genera] discussion regarding the improvements
needed to Boyd Road.
Mayor Amick asked if the entire area is in Little Elm School
District, Mr. Anderson advised it is and that the Board is aware
of this zoning request.
Mayor Amick at this time, directed the City Manager and City
Secretary to place the continuation of a Public Hearing and the
Ordinance relating to the zoning request on the March 21 agenda
for Council action.
Councilman Harris asked that the specific concerns and agreements
mentioned in this meeting be laid out before the meeting on the
21st.
With no further business to address, Councilman Harris moved to
adjourn the meeting and Councilman Bradley seconded the motion,
which carried with all members voting Aye.
Mayor Amick adjourned the meeting at 9:00 ?.m.
APP ROVED:
Don A~ick, Ma~yor
ATTEST:
~.~'L~' City Secretary